Forum: Close to Home
Topic: Viewpoints - Should illegal drugs be decriminalized?
Topic Posted by: Close To HomeDate Posted: Wed Mar 18 15:22:22 1998
Posted by: Brad Dalton
Date posted: Tue Apr 7 22:55:28 1998
Subject: Evil, Know Thyself
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I am always amazed by those who so nobly speak of good and evil but fail to recognize it in themselves. Lack of compassion coupled with a meanness of sprit seems to be the hallmark of those so disposed. Perhaps it’s the manifestation of fear I see.
*No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.*
Edmund Burke
Posted by: RAMSEY
Date posted: Tue Apr 7 21:45:24 1998
Subject: CLIFF SCHAFFER SAYS...
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IN HIS TREATISE ON PERSUASIVE STRATEGIES: AVOID COMPLEX ARGUEMENTS. THE SUPPORTERS OF THE DRUG WAR HAVE, IN KEEPING WITH THEIR GENERAL INTELLECTUAL LEVEL, MADE THE SIMPLEST PROPAGANDA POSSIBLE...... HE GOES ON TO SAY: PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT I AGREE WITH THE ARGUEMENTS BASED ON CIVIL LIBERTIES AND ECONOMICS, I JUST DON'T FIND THEM PERSUASIVE TO OTHERS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HATRED AND CONTEMPT FOR ORDINARY AMERICA. IF YOU OPPOSE FIGHTING DRUGS YOU ARE OF A LOW INTELLECTUAL LEVEL IN CLIFFS MIND, AND YOU NEED IT PUT IN BABY TALK FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT. YOU ARE INCABABLE IN CLIFFS MIND OF UNDERSTANDING ALL THE ISSUES. CLIFF, WHY DONT YOU ENLIST QUADAFFI OR SADDAM. THE HATE AMERICANS TOO.
Posted by: RAMSEY
Date posted: Tue Apr 7 19:40:37 1998
Subject: ANOTHER QUOTE FROM CLIFF SCHAFFER'S DOCUMENT ON PERSUASIVE STRATEGIES
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STICK TO THE ISSUE DON'T LET THE DISCUSSION STRAY INTO REATED SOCIAL ISSUES. DRUG POLICY IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WHICH IS CLOSLY INTERTWINED WITH OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS MORALITY.......YOU DON'T HAVE TIME FOR IT, AND MOST AMERICANS DON'T HAVE THE BRAIN CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES ANYWAY. HEY CLIFF THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP. I NEW THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS A MORAL ISSUE, NO MATTER HOW MANYB TIMES YOU DENIED IT. BUT THINKING OF MOST AMERICANS AS LACKING IN BRAIN CAPACITY, WELL, I JUST HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE. I THINK AMERICANS ARE THE WISEST IN THE WORLD AND WILL USE THEIR GOOD JUDGEMENT ON YOUR PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE POISON AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE.
Posted by: RAMSEY
Date posted: Tue Apr 7 15:35:24 1998
Subject: PERSUASIVE STRATEGIES BY CLIFFOR SCHAFFER
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AN EXCERPT: DONT DEFEND THE USE OF DRUGS. DONT TELL PEOPLE THAT EVERYONE HAS A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO INTO THEIR BODY. YOU MAY BE RIGHT, AND I HAPPEN TO AGREE, BUT IT WONT PLAY IN PEORIA. MANY PEOPLE VIEW THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO GET LOADED(AND IN MANY CASES, THEY ARE RIGHT). GOOD STUFF CLIFF. I WILL BE SHARING MORE OF YOUR PROFOUND WISDOM AS THE DAY PROGRESSES. SO PEOPLE FROM PEORIA A JUST MORONS TO YOU HUH???
Posted by: RAMSEY
Date posted: Tue Apr 7 3:00:15 1998
Subject: THE WAY THINGS ARE
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MR SCHAFFER AND HIS PALS CAN CONTINUE TO SPOUT SO CALLED EVIDENCE TILL THE END OF TIME. THE ONE THING THEY DON'T HAVE IS THE VERY REAL PERSONAL DESTRUCTION OF PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ADMIT THAT DRUGS ARE HARMFULL, YET THE WISH GAIN SUFFICIENT ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR IDEAS, WITH STATISTICS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE, WELL REHERSED STATEMENTS, TIRED EXAMPLES, AND A TOTAL AND COMPLETE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF RIGHT AND WRONG-GOOD AND EVIL. NO GROUP OR PERSON TAKES UP A CAUSE WITHOUT SOME PERSONAL VESTED INTEREST. MAYBE THEY ARE USERS. MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMEONE IN JAIL. BUT I KNOW THIS FOR SURE, MY BROTHER IS DEAD. I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THAT. I WILL NEVER GIVE IN TO CLIFF, HIS STATISTICS AND HIS LIBRARY OF DEATH. DON'T FALL FOR HIS SLICK AND POLISHED APPROACH. REALIZE THAT HE HAS BEEN AT THIS FOR YEARS. HE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OVER AN ORDINARY PERSON, WHICH BY VIRTUE OF HIS DOCUMENT ON PERSUASIVE TACTICS, HE HOLD IN CONTEMPT, AND CONSIDERS HIMSELF ITELECTUALLY SUPERIOR TO. ASK YOURSELF, IS THIS COUNTRY BETTER FOR DOPE, OR SHOULD WE GIVE IN AND HIDE IN OUR HOMES. THAT IS CLIFFS VISION FOR AMERICA. A SICK, TWISTED AND EVIL VERSION. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. FOLLOW YOU GUT INSTINCT. IT WILL LEAD YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND FOR YOU CLIFF, MY FAMILIES BODY COUNT IS 1 HEROIN, ONE, ALCHOLOL, TWO TO TOBACCO. THE COUNTRY IS SWERVING MY DIRECTION ON TOBACCO. ALCOHOL, I WILL NEVER WIN, AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TOSEE TO IT THAT YOUR PRO DOPE WAR FAILS JUST THE SAME. PHONY CROCODILE TEARS FOR THE FELONS WILL CONVINCE NOBODY. THE TEARS ARE FOR THE INNOCENT.