Posted by: Sean A. McPhail (seamus@accutek.com)
Institution: none
Date posted: Thu Aug 7 5:11:54 1997
Message:
Gentlemen,
Greetings from Reno, Nevada. I've just recently discovered
the works of Buckminster Fuller (About a month ago). I'm still
learning about the man as it would appear to be the case with anyone,
whether one has studied him for ten minutes or ten years. I read somewhere
in his works that the more educated the nation/community,
the lower the birth rate. I point this out since we are using
Los Angeles as our frame of reference. I'm not saying it's a city
of idiots, but the problem facing a place like Los Angeles-- and I
might add the United States and potentially the world-- is one of Education.
Educate the masses and it will be impossible to not elevate the standard
of living for every man, woman and child. Staying with our example, L.A.'s problem
isn't one of efficiency; it's difficult to be efficient when you don't even know what
you're striving for. We need to "unlearn" what we've learned, and realize that there
is enough to go around for everyone. Universe is expanding and what were once vast
oceans of water are now vast oceans of space. We will conquer those horizons too,
but we all have to be on the same page, not continually backbiting, not perceiving
someone else's loss as personal gain... Greed and avarice are basic, primal instincts.
We can elevate ourselves beyond these survival instincts if we simply nurture our minds
and hopefully our souls at the same time. This is why human's rule the Earth to begin with:
our intelligence. To quote Dante, "Those who know most, grieve most for wasted time."
This would explain Fuller's rigor, dilligence, and sleeping habits. If you doubt for one
second that we haven't the means to create Fuller's Utopia, to provide for all of mankind
the lifestyle of a billionaire, then I ask you one simple question: How do we account for the
ripples caused by a single man-- Buckminster Fuller-- in a single lifetime, on a planet of billions?
Posted by: Christ Andronis (andronitoons@msn.com)
Institution: Malcolm X College
Date posted: Sun Aug 3 22:27:41 1997
Message:
Mr. Dante, In reply to your post about people using all their resources, perhaps a change in behavior is warranted. People behave as they do because the contingincies that reinforce that behavior reward them for doing so. Perhaps changing the contingincies so that greed and avarice(sp?) are not rewarded would make people see the true nature of his designs and ideas. Bucky was a human being who seemed to operate in an "ego-less" state. I would only hope that more people do the same. Only then is positive change possible.
Posted by: Edmond Dantes
Institution: none
Date posted: Thu Jul 24 14:25:24 1997
Message:
Buckminster Fuller is one of the most ingenious people I have ever heard of. His ideas and designs were revolutionary and so simple. It is a shame that few, if any, of his ideas are used today. However he belived that by being efficient and using our resources wisley can reach world peace. This is one thing I disagree with. It is the nature of human beings to use all of their resources to their fullest extent. For example when LA was founded it was a desert. To support the population, water was piped in from many all over. The water made LA a desireable place to live and thus more people moved in. However this influx of people raised the demand for water. so more was piped in. So it goes in a visious cycle until either the people change or the resourses are gone. (See the show Cadillac Desert on KPBS). Also farming techniques have advanced greatly since ancient times yet the population has grown so much due to the new surplus that we are unable to return to the old methods. No matter how efficient we are we will grow in population until the efficency is insufficient to support us. We must change our nature before fuller's ideas will truly lead to world peace. In closing I would just like to say that I highly respect Fuller despite my disagreement and I hope to see the day when they are implimented.
Posted by: Edmond Dantes
Institution: none
Date posted: Thu Jul 24 14:25:16 1997
Message:
Buckminster Fuller is one of the most ingenious people I have ever heard of. His ideas and designs were revolutionary and so simple. It is a shame that few, if any, of his ideas are used today. However he belived that by being efficient and using our resources wisley can reach world peace. This is one thing I disagree with. It is the nature of human beings to use all of their resources to their fullest extent. For example when LA was founded it was a desert. To support the population, water was piped in from many all over. The water made LA a desireable place to live and thus more people moved in. However this influx of people raised the demand for water. so more was piped in. So it goes in a visious cycle until either the people change or the resourses are gone. (See the show Cadillac Desert on KPBS). Also farming techniques have advanced greatly since ancient times yet the population has grown so much due to the new surplus that we are unable to return to the old methods. No matter how efficient we are we will grow in population until the efficency is insufficient to support us. We must change our nature before fuller's ideas will truly lead to world peace. In closing I would just like to say that I highly respect Fuller despite my disagreement and I hope to see the day when they are implimented.
Posted by: Edmond Dantes
Institution: none
Date posted: Thu Jul 24 14:17:48 1997
Message:
Buckminster Fuller is one of the most ingenious people I have ever heard of. His ideas and designs were revolutionary and so simple. It is a shame that few, if any, of his ideas are used today. However he belived that by being efficient and using our resources wisley can reach world peace. This is one thing I disagree with. It is the nature of human beings to use all of their resources to their fullest extent. For example when LA was founded it was a desert. To support the population, water was piped in from many all over. The water made LA a desireable place to live and thus more people moved in. However this influx of people raised the demand for water. so more was piped in. So it goes in a visious cycle until either the people change or the resourses are gone. (See the show Cadallac Desert on KPBS). No matter how efficient we are we will grow in population until the efficency is insufficient to support us. We must change our nature before fuller's ideas will truly lead to world peace. In closing I would just like to say that I highly respect Fuller despite my disagreement and I hope to see the day when they are implimented.
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